AccountId: 011433970860 ContactId: ec2eea50-cc23-400b-9cba-91de9b8ce44e Channel: VOICE LanguageCode: en-US Total Conversation Duration: 662780 ms Total Talk Time (AGENT): 307468 ms Total Talk Time (CUSTOMER): 203228 ms Interruptions: 1 Overall Sentiment: AGENT=0.8, CUSTOMER=-0.1 Redaction Types: PII Input Audio S3: s3://apl-connect-contactcenter-data-prod/connect/apl-prod/CallRecordings/2025/06/09/ec2eea50-cc23-400b-9cba-91de9b8ce44e_20250609T21:25_UTC.wav -------------------------------------------- [AGENT][POSITIVE] Good afternoon. Thank you for calling APL. My name is [PII]. How may I help you? [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK, I've been hung up on 4 times, so I hope you hold on to the line. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] OK. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK, I have a question. I have a cancer policy and my question is, my husband had has passed away. It was for him and me. So am I supposed to be paying that full uh amount for the premium? [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Mhm. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] No, for like you and your husband still? [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Uh-huh. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Oh, no, ma'am. [CUSTOMER][NEGATIVE] Well, he, he's been dead now going on almost 6 years and I was just paying the same amount. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Um, [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Oh, wait a minute, OK. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Um, well, 1st may I have your name and a good contact number, then I'm gonna pull up your policy, but yeah, we can definitely get that fixed for you and if um it needs to be like, I don't think backdated is the right word, but if we need to uh pay you for the [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Yeah. [CUSTOMER][NEGATIVE] I need to get a refund. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Yes. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Yeah. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Um, [CUSTOMER][NEGATIVE] OK, well, I, uh, it just hit me the other day. I thought, well, maybe I shouldn't be paying what I've been paying all along with both of us, you know. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Yes, ma'am. OK. Um, may I have your name and a good contact number? [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Uh my name is [PII] [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] What do you mean contact number uh. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Um, like the phone number is [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Uh, address or? [AGENT][NEUTRAL] No, your phone number [PII]. Is that the best number for you? [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Phone number? [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Right, right. Mhm. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] OK. And may I have your policy number? [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Uh, it's 421-112. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] OK, hold on one moment. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] OK, and I have you here, Ms. [PII], can you verify your date of birth and the mailing address on file? [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] My date of birth is um let me think, [PII]. [AGENT][POSITIVE] Mhm take your time. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] I mean, yeah. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Do I just I. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] I'm all mixed up. [PII]. Uh-huh. [PII]. Mhm. [AGENT][POSITIVE] It's OK. Take your time. [AGENT][POSITIVE] Yes, ma'am. Thank you. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] And then can you, your address and email address? [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] And what else? [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Yeah, [PII]. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] And what else? [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Your email [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] [PII] [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] [PII]. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Thank you for that and all the information provided is a verification of benefits, not a guarantee of payment. And let me see. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] I'm just reading through the notes. OK, so it looks like back in [PII]. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Um, let me see if it changed over though. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Hold on one moment, I'm just trying to get everything together. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Yeah, I pay, I pay $800 something dollars quarterly. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] So this, OK, so this policy is an individual policy. Your husband is no longer active on this policy. Um, it's just you. Let me look at the notes, um. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Why well does he own it? [AGENT][POSITIVE] Yes, since that, I'm sorry? [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Why wasn't he on it? He, it was supposed to be. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Well, we received the death certificate back in July on [PII]. So when we received the death certificate, we took him off, so you don't have to, you shouldn't have to pay for him. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Oh well. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] You took him off, but my, um my, my, um, [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] My, uh, premium didn't change. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Let me see. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] I'm paying $80. That's what I had been paying all along. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] With him on it. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] OK, I understand what you're saying. Hold on one second. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] He died [PII]. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] So, if you like, I can have a member of customer service to give you a call and the reason I'm saying that is because customer service is the department that puts the policies together. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Mhm. [AGENT][NEGATIVE] Terminates the policies, works with the premiums, so that is who would make these changes. I don't know why the, the um premium amount didn't change back in [PII] when they took him off the policy. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Yeah. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Um, but we can, I can have the representative give you a call and talk to you about it. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Well, [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Well, [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] I don't, I don't know either. I mean, I've been paying $80 quarterly for a year, you know, for several years. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] So if he came off from it, I don't know whether, whether it [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Should have been lowered or what? I don't know. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Hold on one moment, let's see. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] If I could see what it was before. Hold on one moment. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Mhm [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Paid the amount. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Yeah, I don't, I don't, um, I mean, I see the differences in the pricing, but I, I'm gonna have customer service explain it to you because I don't want to give you the wrong information and that's what their department is for, um. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] I guess it looks like it should have gone down or not? [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Yeah, I mean, from how it's being explained to me, yes, if he was on the policy and you were paying an amount and then he um [AGENT][NEUTRAL] You know, was no longer on the policy, there should have been a decrease, but sometimes there's not a change in premium. I don't know what determines that, so I don't want to say yes and it's really a no. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Yeah, we got. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Give me a number to call. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] You don't have to call them. I'm gonna have them call you. It's the same number, it's just a different department. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] So I'm gonna make it urgent and um urgent is 24 to 48 hours. Um, so what's today, Monday, Wednesday at the latest, um you would receive a call back 24 would be tomorrow. Um, would that be OK? [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] I guess I might be here, I might not be. I don't know. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Would you rather, um, I mean the [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Do you want me to see if I can get someone to speak with you now? We're supposed to do a call back, but I mean. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Well, that would be, that, well, that would be better. I'm here and I could talk to him while I've got all this spread out. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Oh [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Exactly, I agree. Um, hold on one moment, let me see uh if I can get a representative for you, OK? [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Sure. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Alright, and before I do that, was there anything else I can assist you with today? [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] No, that's it. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] All right, thank you. Hold on one moment. [CUSTOMER][NEGATIVE] You are on hold. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] I mean, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not going through that. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Because that does make sense. Why would I offer you a call back and you're on the phone now? So I'm just gonna explain it to the rep and you could report me if you want. [AGENT][POSITIVE] I don't care. I'm here to help the customer. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Ferring [AGENT][NEUTRAL] You call back. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Good afternoon. Thank you for calling APL. This is [PII]. How can I help you? [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Hi [PII], this is [PII]. I'm sending this over because I offered a call back and she said she doesn't, that doesn't make sense. She's on the phone now, so I'm just trying to get her over. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK, what is the policy number? [AGENT][NEUTRAL] It's 421-112. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Uh-huh. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK, did you get a callback number? [AGENT][NEUTRAL] [PII]. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Uh-huh. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Uh-huh. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] And she's upset? [AGENT][NEUTRAL] She's not upset. It's just, so she has this cancer policy and she, she says that the premium didn't change even after her husband passed. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] She upstairs? [AGENT][NEUTRAL] And at first she was thinking the husband was on there and I'm like, well, no, we took him off back in [PII] and she was like, well, why didn't my premium change? And I said, well, [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Mhm. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Mhm. [AGENT][NEGATIVE] I don't know the answer to that, but I can have customer service give you a call back and talk to you about it. And she said, well, why would they call me back and I'm on the phone now, and I said, well, I don't know. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Mhm mhm. [CUSTOMER][POSITIVE] OK, I'll talk to her. Thank you, no problem. OK, thank you and I have a good afternoon. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] OK. You're welcome. Hold on one sec. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] You too. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Mm [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK, bye bye. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Hello, [PII]. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Yes. [AGENT][POSITIVE] Thanks so much for holding. I have [PII] on the line and she's going to assist you further, OK? [CUSTOMER][POSITIVE] OK, thank you. [AGENT][POSITIVE] You're welcome. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Hello, this is [PII] in customer service how are you today?