AccountId: 011433970860 ContactId: a1a40e69-092f-44c1-8686-75b37d6620f6 Channel: VOICE LanguageCode: en-US Total Conversation Duration: 574820 ms Total Talk Time (AGENT): 213213 ms Total Talk Time (CUSTOMER): 188702 ms Interruptions: 0 Overall Sentiment: AGENT=0.4, CUSTOMER=0 Redaction Types: PII Input Audio S3: s3://apl-connect-contactcenter-data-prod/connect/apl-prod/CallRecordings/2025/02/18/a1a40e69-092f-44c1-8686-75b37d6620f6_20250218T17:40_UTC.wav -------------------------------------------- [AGENT][POSITIVE] Good morning thank you for calling APL. My name is [PII]. How may I help you? [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Hi, [PII]. I have um [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] I have a claim that it keeps on getting rejected. I used to be a member for a couple of years, like, I don't know, 8 years maybe with American Public Life. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Mhm. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] But um, [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Uh, I keep on now this, this is, is not working, so can I give you my, um, what do you need from me? [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Do you happen to have your policy number available? [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Let me look here. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Or claim number? [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] I mean [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] I have a claim, it should be. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Um, [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] CO 296-726 [AGENT][NEUTRAL] That is not gonna be the APL claim number. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Let me see if I have it anywhere, yeah. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] If not, I can look it up by your policy up by your social if that would be easier. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Oh. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Let me look here hold on. [AGENT][POSITIVE] All right, thank you. [CUSTOMER][POSITIVE] You're welcome. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Um, [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Um, what you call it, so, um, [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] 3PL [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Here it is. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Mm. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] We'll log in and see if that helps me. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] OK. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Alright, it was 246. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] 4755. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] And what is your name and date of birth, please? [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] [PII] [PII]. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] OK. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] And what is your date of, are you sorry, give me your date of birth. I'm sorry, Ms. [PII], and what is the current mailing address? [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] [PII]. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] [PII]. [AGENT][POSITIVE] Alright, thank you. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] And do you also mind verifying your current mailing I'm sorry, email and phone number? [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] [PII]. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] And [PII]. [AGENT][POSITIVE] Perfect, thank you. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Yeah [AGENT][NEUTRAL] And do you know what that claim date of service was or? [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Yes, um, [PII]. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] [PII]. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] OK. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Let me take a look [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] I'm looking here on my end. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Except for durable medical equipment? [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] No. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] August [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] It's [PII] [PII]. 0, I'm sorry. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] OK, got you. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Mm. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] I, I think I found it. Let me take a look at this claim. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Oh, OK, it's on Spot dermatology. I did that at a fair. [CUSTOMER][NEGATIVE] And supposedly they were gonna cover it 100% and then they keep on sending me a $60 bill. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] OK, so let me take a quick look. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] It looks like they are needing what's called the diagnosis code. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] In fact, there's several dates of service that they're needing that for. I see you have an active online account. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Yeah. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] If you look at um on your account it claimed 3505833. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] What is that? [AGENT][NEUTRAL] That's the claim number. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK. [CUSTOMER][NEGATIVE] Um, what is it that, what is it that you guys need from me? Because I think I'm owed some money, I think, but, uh, maybe not. [CUSTOMER][NEGATIVE] But um this onspot dermatology I have not paid it. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] OK. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Uh [CUSTOMER][POSITIVE] Can we start with that and and see why yeah thank you. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Sure. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Absolutely. And then for future reference just to let you know, Ms. [PII], um, well your policy looks like it's terminating on [PII], so no longer active, but, um, providers can file claims for you too for past services so just be aware of that as well. They can send a claim to us. They normally have all the documents needed. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] With our policy, we have to have the diagnosis code. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Because this policy only pays towards sickness or injury. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] So the diagnosis code would therefore indicate that the claim is payable if it is for a sickness or an injury. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK, hold on. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] So that's what we're needing. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Hold on operations. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Can I have, can I have the address please? [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Mhm. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] What your name? [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Your name? [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK, do you have a cell phone or what do you do? [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Mhm. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Uh huh. [CUSTOMER][POSITIVE] All right, thank you. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Can you hold on for a second? Just a moment. Yes, I'm sorry, go ahead. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Mhm. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] OK, and [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] So I'm not, I've not, yeah, so I'm so busy all I'm sorry, but so. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Mhm. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] You're fine. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] 14 [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK. So, basically, uh, first, nobody's ever told me that it was for sickness or [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Alright. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] I just thought that [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] APL pay for all my deductibles because. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Supposedly, we have free insurance not free insurance, but we have a gap to cover all our copays. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] At no time did they tell me that it's only for this or that. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Mhm. It, this policy does cover sickness or injury. So it like, for example, if you're going to a doctor's office for, say, your annual physical. [AGENT][NEGATIVE] Or a screening, then that would be not be considered for a sickness, so it would not be covered. So that is not. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Mm [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Yeah, I had a wart. I had a wart on my hand and it hurt me, and so she asked me, I can take it off for you. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Mhm. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] So she took it off. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Yeah, and that, see, that's not a screening, so it definitely could be covered. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] But we will need the diagnosis code. And was that for an Alexander Herbst? Was that the provider's name? [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Yeah. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] OK, you can contact that provider and ask them for the um there's a form called a CMS 1500. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Yeah. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] And that should have your diagnosis codes and procedure codes all listed for that data service. [CUSTOMER][POSITIVE] OK, thank you. [AGENT][POSITIVE] My pleasure. Is there now there's more dates of service that we need those diagnosis codes? [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Um, if you pull up your claims online, if you click on the claim number, you'll be able to see the code, um, if it is has a code DM 182. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] That means we need the diagnosis code for that data service. Once we get those codes, we can go back and repro.