AccountId: 011433970860 ContactId: 83f9adfc-f252-4f20-be41-71fcf05872d3 Channel: VOICE LanguageCode: en-US Total Conversation Duration: 938270 ms Total Talk Time (AGENT): 259690 ms Total Talk Time (CUSTOMER): 396486 ms Interruptions: 3 Overall Sentiment: AGENT=0.7, CUSTOMER=0.4 Redaction Types: PII Input Audio S3: s3://apl-connect-contactcenter-data-prod/connect/apl-prod/CallRecordings/2025/02/20/83f9adfc-f252-4f20-be41-71fcf05872d3_20250220T20:43_UTC.wav -------------------------------------------- [AGENT][POSITIVE] Good afternoon. Thank you for calling APL. My name is [PII]. How may I help you? [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Hi, I am calling from a dental office in regards to a pre-authorization we received back from a patient and I'm just a little confused on it. [AGENT][POSITIVE] Sure, I'll be happy to assist you. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] What is your name please, ma'am? [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] My name is [PII]. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] And what is a good callback number, [PII]? [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] It's [PII]. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Thank you, [PII]. And what is the patient's name? [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] First name is [PII] [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Last name [PII] [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Thank you. And with the policy number? [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] 01603081 [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Thank you. And what is [PII]'s date of birth? [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] It is [PII]. [AGENT][POSITIVE] All right, thank you. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] And this is under claim 3,562,260? [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Yes. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] OK. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Give me just one second, I'm trying to get that pulled up. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Yeah. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] And let's look at it together. [CUSTOMER][POSITIVE] Sounds good [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Slowly but surely bear with me. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] I get it. [AGENT][NEGATIVE] It's like today is just, it's just, it's just not being nice today. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] I think it's cold weather. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Yeah [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Yeah. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Uh, in the summertime, we'll say it's cause all this heat, but right now it's because of all this cold. [CUSTOMER][POSITIVE] Exactly. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] It's the only thing we have to go off of. [AGENT][POSITIVE] That's right. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Yes [AGENT][POSITIVE] See, it's, oh my goodness. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] OK. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Hm. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] OK, so it didn't pull up the. OK, let me do it another way. [CUSTOMER][POSITIVE] good [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Go ahead if you, you said you've got some questions regarding it while I'm trying to get this pulled up if you wanna go ahead and ask them. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Yeah, so it was for a crown on number 30, um, but on this form that we received back at the service description, there's only the crown seat listed on here. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] But under total bill charges, it has 1435 and 1 cent, and 1435 is our fee on that crown, um. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Mhm. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Mhm. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] And it's saying the patients responsibility is the one cent. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] But I mean like the crown isn't listed on here. There's a remark on the back about um not being able to provide benefits for procedure service not listed. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] OK, so the, what that means. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Is that, that procedure is probably not listed on the fee schedule. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK, so is that why the crown is just not showing on there? [AGENT][NEUTRAL] So it would be a non-covered. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Yeah, let me see if that is a listed benefit. Do you have a breakdown for him? [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Let me see. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] 279-6. Let me check and see if that is listed. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Yeah, because the 2796 is just seeing the crown like it's a zero charge in our office, um, it's the 2740 that we were really looking on the cost for. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Yeah, the 2 [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Yeah, the 2740 is covered under major at 40%. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] I'm still trying to get this thing to come up. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] OK, 2 11:25. So that's. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Um, [AGENT][NEUTRAL] So with this policy and of course there's no repricing or anything we have paid a percentage of the usual customary rate in your area and if the procedure is not listed then it would not have um. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Mhm. [AGENT][NEGATIVE] It would, it would not be covered. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK. [AGENT][POSITIVE] Now the 2740 is covered under 40%. Let me check that. Yeah, he's satisfied his 12 month waiting period. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] And I would have to check for history, cause it's one for 7 year period. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] So let me check that and that's on [PII]? [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Mhm. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Just trying to give you all the information I can while I'm waiting for this computer. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Yeah. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Mhm [AGENT][NEUTRAL] And there's no history of a crown on tooth number 30. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Yeah, because I mean we have like a we have a breakdown from like this last June and we have some notes and whatnot but I was just confused on this. [CUSTOMER][NEGATIVE] This EOB received back just because it only lists the code for the crown seat, not the crown. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] I'll tell you what I can do. Let me get you to our dental department. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] And they can go over that. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Uh, pre-treat estimate with you in further detail. OK? [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK. [CUSTOMER][POSITIVE] That sounds good. [AGENT][POSITIVE] Um, all right. Well, hold just one moment, [PII], let me get a representative for you. Hope you have a wonderful afternoon. [CUSTOMER][POSITIVE] You too thank you. [AGENT][POSITIVE] Thank you. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Transferring. [CUSTOMER][POSITIVE] Thank you for calling American Public Life. This is [PII]. How can I help you? [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Hi [PII], it's [PII]. How are you doing? [CUSTOMER][POSITIVE] Good, how are you? [AGENT][POSITIVE] I'm doing good thank you. I have a dental provider on the line on policy number 160. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] 3081. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] She's calling on part one for [PII]. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] And she's calling regard that um pre-treat estimate on claim number 3,562,260. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Mm, OK. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] I cannot get that pre-treat to come up. I, in on base. I. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] I don't even know. What, what is she just trying to see what the decision is? [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Yeah, she's asking why the crown is not listed on here it just says one cent. [CUSTOMER][NEGATIVE] Oh, I don't know anything about dental. I don't know why they put us all in the queue. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Have these questions we don't. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] We don't know. Uh, let me, mm. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK. What is her name? [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Her name is [PII]. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] And her call back? [AGENT][NEUTRAL] [PII]. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] [PII]. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] 4922. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK, I'm gonna have to transfer her again. [AGENT][NEGATIVE] And I just cannot locate the. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Uh [AGENT][NEUTRAL] The pre-treat EOB. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Let me see. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] So it goes out like a ELD. I'm sorry, I'm asking you that. Is that how it works? I don't know anything about this. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Well, it [AGENT][NEUTRAL] It has, so I'm not sure. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Let me see. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Crown. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] So the crown is the. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] 2796 is the, is that what she's asking about? The seat crown 2796? [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Um, 279-6, yeah. [CUSTOMER][NEGATIVE] Well, there's a 0. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] See on the. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] The image [AGENT][NEUTRAL] You see the pre-treat EOB? [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Well, not the ELB what they actually sent in the claim. Yeah. So that code is, the fee is only, it, there's no fee for it. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Oh, the claim, yeah. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] And then for the other one is alternate procedure not applicable? [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] The 1435. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Mhm. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Mm, OK, wait, wait, wait. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] So, uh, additional actions. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] The, I don't know. I don't know anything. OK, I, I mean, I'll just have to transfer to someone in dental. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] I just [AGENT][NEUTRAL] This is on the, the 2740, yeah. I see it shows as a listed benefit. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK, yeah, I don't, I don't process dental, so I, I have no clue. I'll just have to turn around and transfer to uh someone in dental. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] OK. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Uh, [AGENT][NEUTRAL] You want to just hang up and let me do it that way she doesn't see look like she's getting bounced around? [CUSTOMER][MIXED] I think that's best, but I, you know, I don't know how what you guys are taught for it, you know. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Let [AGENT][POSITIVE] Let's do that. Let's do that. I think that's best instead of. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Let me look here because I normally ask, let's see if she's available. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK, she's not. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK, yeah, um, I, but I don't know, did you, what, what queue did you go in because we're all in the queue. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Dental, dental. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Yeah, they've put us all in the queue to answer the phone, but. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Mhm [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] I don't have the answers or [PII]'s not here. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Uh, let me see. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Before you go back, let me see. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Let me see who processes dental. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] [PII], maybe? [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] She does. Now if I have any questions, I, I do reach out to her. She's the only person that I know. Oh no, no, no, I don't know. I, I, I reach out to [PII]. I've never reached out to [PII], but she's available. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Yeah, see, [PII] said [PII]. That's the only person I know. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Let me, let me see what Angel. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Is [PII] available? [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] She's available. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Yeah, I would say reach out to her, her. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] She's at [PII]. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Mm. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Yeah, I only know [PII]. I reached out to her and she's not showing available right now. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] If nothing else, I would say take her number down and, and let her know that someone will call her back. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] If [PII] doesn't know, well, now [PII]'s not available. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Hm [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Or you can send her over and I'll just tell her I'll have to have someone call her back. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] OK. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Yeah, I see that OK. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] All right. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] OK, thank you, [PII], let me get her on the line. [CUSTOMER][POSITIVE] You're welcome. [AGENT][POSITIVE] [PII], thank you for your patience. I have [PII] in our claims department. She's gonna try to assist you and thank you for calling APL. Hope you have a great afternoon. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Yeah. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK. [CUSTOMER][POSITIVE] You too thank you. [AGENT][POSITIVE] Thank you. Bye-bye. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Hi, [PII]. [CUSTOMER][POSITIVE] Hi hi thank you for holding I do apologize for the wait. I was trying to um get a dental examiner. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Uh, someone that can explain because I see here, let me take a look at something really quick. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] So your question is about the crown, correct? [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Are are both procedures. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Yeah, mostly just the crown. The only code that's listed on what we received back was the crown seat which is at 2796, but that's it's a no charge code anyway. We were really just looking at the crown. OK. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Let me look here. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Mm. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] The procedure not applicable. Let me check their fee schedule maybe this. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Let me make sure this procedure. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] It's on their fee schedule. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] That may be. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Yeah, one we had from June had the 2740 listed on there. OK, let me see frequencies and everything to make sure if it's there. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Yeah, let me look at let me see. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK, so that is the. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] 2740. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] So they looks like they. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Maximum one per. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] 6 months [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] One person too let me see if it's been. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] If we receive a. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK. So it looks like uh [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] No, that's not.