AccountId: 011433970860 ContactId: 79dbe840-d36f-493f-a21d-9099ca5b71ee Channel: VOICE LanguageCode: en-US Total Conversation Duration: 1824439 ms Total Talk Time (AGENT): 747960 ms Total Talk Time (CUSTOMER): 490641 ms Interruptions: 10 Overall Sentiment: AGENT=0.1, CUSTOMER=-0.5 Redaction Types: PII Input Audio S3: s3://apl-connect-contactcenter-data-prod/connect/apl-prod/CallRecordings/2025/01/06/79dbe840-d36f-493f-a21d-9099ca5b71ee_20250106T20:49_UTC.wav -------------------------------------------- [AGENT][POSITIVE] Good afternoon. Thank you for calling APL. My name is [PII]. How may I help you? [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Oh, hi, [PII]. This is [PII] calling from provider's office to check on claim status. [AGENT][POSITIVE] OK, I'll be more than happy to help you with the claim status, [PII]. And how many claims do you have in total today? [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Uh, for the same patient, I do have 10 data services. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] 10 days of service. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Yeah. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] OK, may I have a good contact number in case we're disconnected and the member's policy number? [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Yeah. The contact number is [PII]. And the member policy number was 02348343. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] OK, and can you repeat the phone number slowly for me, please? I'm sorry. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] [PII]. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] What [AGENT][POSITIVE] Thank you for that. Hold on one moment. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Mhm. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Mhm. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] And can you verify the member's first and last name and date of birth? [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] The first name was [PII] and the date of birth was [PII]. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Thank you for that and all the information provided is a verification of benefits, not a guarantee of payment. And may I have all the dates of service and the total bills? [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] We'll go by one by one or do you need the entire thing? [AGENT][NEUTRAL] I would like all 10 together with the total bill, please. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK. So the first date of service was [PII] and the bill amount was $1,471. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Mhm. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] And the next date of service was [PII] with the bill amount of $37. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Yeah [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] And the next one is uh 10 1 [PII] and the bill amount is $184. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] 184. OK. [AGENT][POSITIVE] Yes, I'm following you. I'm ready for the next one. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] And the next one, yeah. The next one is 928 2024 with the amount of $522. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] And the next one is uh 9202024 with the amount of $30. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] And [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] 425 2024 with the amount of $74. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] And the next date of service is [PII] with the amount of $356. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] That will help you. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] And the next one is 423 [PII] with the bill amount of $134. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Next one will be $424 2024 with the amount of $134. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] 424 1234. And the last one is 622 2024 with the amount of $871. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] That's it. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] All right. And is it OK if I place you on just a brief hold while I go through the claims for you? [CUSTOMER][POSITIVE] Yeah, sure, no issues. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] And can you verify the name of the provider's facility on the claims? [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Yeah, sure. The provider was the Permanent Medical Group. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Yeah. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] OK, thank you. Hold on one moment. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Sure. [AGENT][NEGATIVE] We're not gonna be going on a call for 30 million hours. [CUSTOMER][NEGATIVE] You are on hold. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] 28, she got. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] 4,713,521,790 DH 2075. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Which, what else is for the [PII], 522. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] And why not give them together now for the 8 047. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] The $30 3529142382079. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Anything else for the [PII]? No, let's go to the [PII]. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] $37 3521793 DH oops. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] 278, anything else for the [PII] or the [PII]? No, let's go to the next 1 [PII]. [CUSTOMER][NEGATIVE] You are on hold. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] 0 [AGENT][NEUTRAL] 184 there you go. 252-9150 DH 2078. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] 425. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] 740. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] OK [AGENT][NEUTRAL] What? [AGENT][NEUTRAL] 14 3670 yeah, that's 74. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] The math and 7223 DC 7500 oops. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] 04 2024. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] $65 67,500. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] 1343529145 DC 100. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] It's a different data service for [PII]. [CUSTOMER][NEGATIVE] You are on hold. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] I know. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] 1343521 243529124 PC 3500. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] [PII]. [AGENT][NEGATIVE] 871, that's a dupe with the original. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Send us to do the the original. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] 351-7208 D80016 OK. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] So, [AGENT][NEUTRAL] 790. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] What is it? 352-515-2. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] The age [CUSTOMER][NEGATIVE] You are on hold. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Hello, [PII]. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Yes. [AGENT][POSITIVE] Alright, thank you so much for holding. I apologize for that wait. So again, just for the call, all the information provided is a verification of benefits, not a guarantee of payment. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Mhm. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Mhm. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] So for the first amount, the $1,471 for [PII]. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Mhm. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] We received that claim on [PII]. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Mhm. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] That claim number is 3,521,790. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] I [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] I got I. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] And on [PII], the claim was denied. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Mhm. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Because the calendar year max for outpatient accident and sickness treatments in the emergency room has been met. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] So [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] It means [AGENT][NEUTRAL] I'm sorry? [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] It means [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Yeah [AGENT][NEUTRAL] It means that the benefit was maxed out for the calendar year for emergency rooms. [CUSTOMER][POSITIVE] Maximum benefits has been reached, right? [AGENT][POSITIVE] Correct. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Has been exceed. May I know how many, uh, is it, uh, maximum benefits has been accessed as per visits or dollar value? [AGENT][NEUTRAL] It's the visit. It's 2 emergency room visits per calendar year. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Only 2 emergency visits are allowed per calendar year, right? [AGENT][POSITIVE] Correct. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] May I know when the last visit was taken? [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Hold on one moment. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Um, hold on one moment, I have to go through all their claims. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Sure. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Um, I can give you the, are you asking for, I'll give you the date that the claim finished processing on [PII], but it's a different provider's claim. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] So the last visit was performed on [PII], right? [AGENT][NEUTRAL] No, the last claim process paying that benefit was [PII]. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] So, can I have the date of service of that time? [AGENT][NEUTRAL] No, because it's a different provider's claim, so you just ask when was that benefit exhausted? It was exhausted on [PII]. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK. So what I am asking is you have two emergency visits is only allowed per calendar year, right? So I was asking when the last uh emergency visit was performed, the date. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Right, but I can't give you another provider's claim status. However, I can let you know when that claim process. So the benefit has been exhausted for the year. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK. For different provider, so you're unable to provide the other information. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Is that right? [AGENT][POSITIVE] Yes, that's correct. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK. Uh, shall we move to the next client? [AGENT][NEUTRAL] So the next amount of 522,520, do you want me to go in dates of service or the order you gave me? [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] The order I gave you. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] So [PII], the $37. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Yeah [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Mhm. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Hold on one moment. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Sure. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] 352. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] I [AGENT][NEUTRAL] 217. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] What. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Hold on one moment. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] I [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] You [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] I [AGENT][NEUTRAL] I don't see that. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] a physical. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] 93. OK, so that claim was received on [PII]? [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Like [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Mhm. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] The claim number is 352. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] I [AGENT][NEUTRAL] 1793. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Yeah. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] And on [PII], the claim was denied. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] As the medical test for this date of service is not a covered diagnostic test. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] and [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] So is it non-covered? Diagnosis or non-covered? [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Yes. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] It's a non-covered diagnostic test. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Non-OV diagnostics. OK, that's fine. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] So diagnosis are non-covered as per patient plan or provider plan. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Um, the patients plan. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] As for patient plan. That's fine. No issues. Uh shall amount to the next. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] So [PII] for $184 that was received on [PII]. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Next one. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Yeah [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] You didn't [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] So [AGENT][NEUTRAL] The claim number is 352. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] 9150. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Yeah. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Yeah [AGENT][NEUTRAL] And on [PII], the claim was denied for the same reason. It's a non-covered diagnostic test. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Mhm [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK. That's fine. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] So the next one, hold on. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Mhm. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Um, we received [PII], um, for the 5/22 we received on [PII]. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] You [AGENT][NEUTRAL] And that claim number is 352. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] 9145. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Right [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] It [AGENT][NEUTRAL] And on [PII], the claim was denied? [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] So [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Yeah. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Because the calendar year maximum on diagnostic tests has been met. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] So how many uh [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Is it a maximum benefits as may reach as per visits or dollar value? [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Hold on one moment. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] It's per, um, neither one, it's one image per year. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] It's one image services per year, right? [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Right, and then there's another benefit for a follow-up, but this one is just for the initial testing. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] So, may I know when the last image service has been performed? [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] I [AGENT][NEUTRAL] I can let you know the the date that the claim processed on that exhausted the benefit. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] I [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Mhm. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Hold on one moment. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] You. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Oh [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Um, that was also [PII]. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] [PII]. That's fine. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK [AGENT][NEUTRAL] So the next claim for [PII] for $30 that claim number is 35, 0 well, it was received on [PII]. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK, shall we move to the next one? [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Yeah. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] I [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Yeah [AGENT][NEUTRAL] The claim number is 352. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] 9142. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Mm [AGENT][NEUTRAL] And on [PII], the claim was denied. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Because the calendar year maximum for the accident and surgery benefit has been exhausted. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] So is it exactly as per visit or uh dollar value? [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Um, let me see if this one. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] It's not visits, it's [AGENT][NEGATIVE] At a hospital facility, it's one per year, so that was exhausted. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] So, the, the service is allowed only once per year. [AGENT][POSITIVE] Correct. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Right. Uh, may I know when the last service was taken on? [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Hold on one moment. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Sure. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] But I [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Do you mind if I place you on a brief hold so I can go through the claims? [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] It. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Sure. You are on hold. [AGENT][POSITIVE] Thank [AGENT][NEGATIVE] This is ridiculous. [CUSTOMER][NEGATIVE] You are on hold. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] This is crazy. [CUSTOMER][NEGATIVE] You are on hold. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Hey. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Uh, that might have helped. Um, it's 234-834-3. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Because I just gave her the date last claim was processed. I told her I can't give her the claim information. [CUSTOMER][NEGATIVE] You are on hold. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] I mean, [AGENT][NEUTRAL] It's the provider, but it's a different provider than, so the claim that exhausted the benefit is a different provider than who's calling. So I just told her it was exhausted on [PII], which is when the claim was processed, but I'm not telling her. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] OK. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] All right, I just wanted to make sure because I'm like, I'm not going through all these claims. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Right. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] OK. I just want to make sure. That's it, but she keeps asking me if something, if the remarks saying something's outstanding, I mean, maxed out, then she's like, OK, well, when was it maxed out? And I said, well, that's a different provider's claim, but the claim processed on [PII], and she said, well, when was it performed? I said I can't give you that because it's a different provider, but this is when the benefit was exhausted. [CUSTOMER][NEGATIVE] You are on hold. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Um, well, to be honest, it's 10 days of service, so it's a lot. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Mm. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] To file an appeal, but you can't. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Right. [AGENT][POSITIVE] OK, well, thank you. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Mhm, but it's, I mean, I'm fine. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't something else to do. [AGENT][POSITIVE] OK, well, she'll just get what I'll give her. All right, thank you. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] All right, bye bye. [CUSTOMER][NEGATIVE] You are on hold. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Hello [PII]. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Yes. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Thank you so much for holding. I apologize for that wait. So that claim, um, processed on [PII], that exhausted this benefit. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Sorry? [AGENT][NEUTRAL] [PII], I'm sorry, [PII] exhausted this benefit. So when your claim came in, the benefit was already used. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Mm [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK. The services are only once per year and the last visit was performed on [PII]. So it was um exhausted, right? [AGENT][NEGATIVE] It wasn't performed. That's when the claim processed that exhausted the benefit. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK, that's fine. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Selling on to the next data service, I mean, next one. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Mhm. So [PII] for $74 that was received on [PII]. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] The claim number is 351. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] 7223. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Mhm. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] And on [PII], the claim was denied. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] And I'm waiting for that reason to come up now. [AGENT][NEGATIVE] Um, because the premium for that date of service was not received, therefore, um, benefits are not payable. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Sure. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Sorry, is it non-covered? [AGENT][NEUTRAL] The premium [AGENT][NEGATIVE] For this service date was not received. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Therefore, benefits are not payable. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] It was not, so it's non-covered as per patient plan, right? [AGENT][NEGATIVE] No, the premium, their insurance premium was not received. Therefore, benefits could not be paid out. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] It means [AGENT][NEUTRAL] For your insurance policy, you have to pay for your policy weekly or monthly. They, the pre the [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] So is it deductible? [AGENT][NEGATIVE] No, it's a premium. They what they pay to keep their policy was not received. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] So we can't pay out on claims when they didn't pay for their insurance. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] So it's a non-pay as for uh uh patients and the insurance plan, right? [AGENT][NEGATIVE] The denial reason is the premium for this date of service was not received. Therefore, benefits are not payable. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK, that's fine. So shall you know to the next. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Yes, and that's actually the denial reason for the next 3 days of service, but I can let you know when the claim was received and processed and the claim number. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Yeah. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Is it the same? And what is the total premium allowed per year? [AGENT][NEUTRAL] OK, wait, wait, wait, wait. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying the denial reason for the next 3 days of service that we're gonna go through are the same denial reason, but I can give you when those claims were received, processed, and the claim number. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Mhm. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Mhm. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Sure. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] And I cannot give you the insured premium that they pay for their insurance. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] So for [PII], the $356. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] That claim, hold on one moment. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK that's [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] time. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Alright, so that was received on [PII]. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Mhm. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] That claim number is 352-9145. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] We [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Is it 45 or 26? [AGENT][NEUTRAL] 352-914-5. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] And it was processed on [PII]. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] So the same denial premium for the service is non-received, so benefits are non-payable as per the patient plan. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Right, the premium wasn't received, so the benefits are not payable. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK. Shall we move on to the next year of service? I mean, next one? [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Mhm. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] So that's, OK, wait a minute. So 423-2024, the 356, that claim number is 352-9126. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] The amount of 134 is 352-9145. I don't know if [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Mhm. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] We got, I don't know. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK, OK. I got it. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] The next date of service 424 for $134. [CUSTOMER][NEGATIVE] Oh shit. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] was also received on [PII] and processed on [PII]. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Mhm. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] That claim number is 352-9124. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Yeah. [CUSTOMER][NEGATIVE] Same denial. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Yes. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] And what about the last one? [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Hold on one moment. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] I. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Um, that was received on [PII]. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] So. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] And that claim number is 351. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] 7208. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Yeah. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] I. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] And on [PII], the claim was denied. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Mhm. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Yes. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Because the benefit maximum for this data service has been met. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Mhm. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] So is it maximum benefits has been excessed as per visits or dollar value? [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Per visit? [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] Uh, how many is it is it allowed? [AGENT][NEUTRAL] For the emergency room, um, let me go back. I believe it was 2. Hold on one moment. Yes, it's 2 per calendar year. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] 2 visits for [PII]. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK. When was the last visit was performed? [AGENT][NEUTRAL] [PII]. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] 24. OK, that's fine. [AGENT][NEUTRAL] That's not when it was performed, that's when the claim was processed. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK, that's fine. Uh. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] So it is allowed only 2 visits per calendar year, right? [AGENT][POSITIVE] Yes, that's correct. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] I. [CUSTOMER][NEUTRAL] OK, so can I have a reference number for this call? [AGENT][NEUTRAL] Sure, so there's no call reference number, but you can use my name and today's date and my name is [PII] The [PII], and then today's date. [CUSTOMER][POSITIVE] So and then thank you so much for your blessed and wonderful patience. Thank you bye bye. [AGENT][POSITIVE] Thank you also and thanks for calling APL. Bye-bye. [CUSTOMER][POSITIVE] Thank you.